As for the comment that the Gooners gave West Ham, Chelsea and Tottenham a slap, hilarious. And they were all doing deals, whether that be scallies nicking trainers from German stores and selling them back in Liverpool, firms sorting their own transport or, in the late 1980s, crews who ran raves and did a bit of dealing. The controversial US oil plan explained, Detectives hunting for Constance Martens baby find remains of infant, Harry and Meghan lose Frogmore Cottage after memoir controversy, Watch: Moment teenager smashes into lorry during 100mph police chase, London Bridge overcrowding: Give TfL control of Southeastern trains. ( not guilty m lord. England's main rivals in the bidding process are Russia, where football hooliganism is a far bigger problem. He recalled attending Arsenal matches in the mid-70s when the most notorious Highbury hooligan was Johnny Hoy. Six-feet-two and around 200 pounds, Hoy was an astute rabble rouser who organized Arsenal fans to fend off rival firms who tried to make inroads on the Highbury terraces. Essential T-Shirt. I still fight at football, says Peter, 43, in hushed tones in a Soho pub. Correct, late 70s 80s tottenham all over shitbury time and time again ! Other ex-hooligans include Game of Thrones star Sean Bean, who was a fully tattooed-up member of Sheffield Uniteds hoolie firm the Blades Business Crew, Beautiful South and The Housemartins founder Paul Heaton (a fellow Blade), and Noel Gallagher ran with Manchester Citys firm. And I werent part of any yid firm when it mattered? Unlike you who seems to b telling us that you done everyone. One of Manchester Uniteds former top boys (now a Buddhist) runs a significant chunk of Ibizas wholesale food supplies. The Two Stories Behind the Meaning of E-I-E. But I would say the The Arsenal firm were known as the Gooners from 1980 til about 1985 when we renamed ourselves the Herd so they are the same firm with the same faces,lots of top boys in these photos,so you are very wrong in your write up. Brick Abat I forgot all the other user names you got on youtube but we all know you was never there or part of any yid firm when it mattered, no ghettos in fucking Hertford you soft cunt. There have been years when Ive been trying to wind it down Im a respectable man but we were at the Emirates and Id gone to watch the football and youve got 57,000 pissed-off home fans and 3,000 delirious Tottenham rivals. I can tell from your comments your a tool. And we must remember that an Arsenal fan was stabbed to death near Arsenal tube after a game against West Hamat Highbury in the Eighties.Of course, we all have tales of witnessing football violence and the modern day equivalent for Arsenal is a trip to T********, not that it wasnt case back in the day too. "CCTV evidence led to two of them receiving a 15-month prison sentence, which reflects that the judge has an understanding of the organised pre-planned ferocity of the incident.". How damaging does Thomas think any problems might be to England's hopes of hosting the tournament? Over 40 years later! CARMEL | INDIANA | (317) 805 You can buy a pill or a line any time you want, but imagine if you could only take them twice a season. Never been near hertford so your little dig means fuck all to me. By CarlosMerch. I swear a lot at matches and I once kicked a seat when we conceded a goal. However, the name is now used by most non-hooligan Arsenal supporters. Home Office figures for the 2008-09 season show an average of only 1.18 arrests per match, an overall total of 3,752 from the 38 million people who attended games in England and Wales that year. The top mob was the Clockend,thats who everyone knows and remembers,not some divs in the north bank from the home counties,is that who you mean by saying 99% of the top boys are missing? The best times were when we were a small tight knit firm like in these photos,going away to Boro & Liverpool 80 handed for a night game and doing what we wanted,blades bottles anything went and hardly anyone used to get nicked for the bad tear ups cos they all took place away from ob,scousers & mancs getting run everywhere and pinged on their own turf,and getting it again when they come down here trying to sneak back into Euston through the back streets of Somers town,always an ambush waiting for them and they got terrorised,no won some lost some about it,you got fucking mullered every time,great times. Love reading memories from from genuine fans from around the country, honest fans who were actually there unlike the idiots who have commented on here. Was I involved? ", The hooligans agree. Fuck me ive heard it all now. It's possible to advertise on our website. But we had intelligence that they might come to the area. It was very rare that anyone brought a camera to a game back then,these are probably the only photos that exist from the glory years and the main faces are well represented here. Since then, the boys from the terraces have grown up and out into culture, making music, writing books, producing films, television, theatre and fine art. It gives them that strength of character to go into situations where otherwise they might have been frightened. PC Pete Dearden, Arsenal's football intelligence officer, says: "At a high-profile game at Arsenal where there are 60,000 people coming, we are looking at 150 to 200 who are part of the risk supporters group. Id rather have my memories than a huge bank balance. not to say you didnt win in little pockets around finsbury park but deffo not near the lane. James Bevan, 40, of Grantham Road, Manor Park, Danny Butler, 38 , of Colyton Way, Edmonton, 43-year-old Mark Gittins, of Basildon, Essex, and Tony Hackett, 57, from Nottingham were all convicted. Many don't go to the game because they can't get membership or are banned, but they still attach themselves. What is the Willow Project? as said you may of won couple of small duels with numbers near highbury but you couldnt paste those firms. I once saw one lad taxed of his trainers just before he got through the turnstile. When using the terms hooligan and casuals its important to tread with care. There has been a worrying series of violent, football-related incidents in the past three months. He was leader of one of the Arsenal's hooligan firms during the 1980s. Banno, for instance, a well-known stage actor in his early fifties, has written two well-received plays and produced documentaries for Channel 4. I have some who are in their sixties and might earn 100,000 a week in the City. Its all a far cry from the 1970s and 1980s terrace battles or pitch invasions, when rival supporters in tightly organised gangs and sometimes with professional calling cards (those beaten up by West Hams hooligans famously woke up to find embossed cards bearing the legend Congratulations. Your continued use of this site indicates your acceptance of the terms and conditions specified. West Ham were fined 115,000. The Lamb Clinic provides a comprehensive assessment and customized treatment plan for all new patients utilizing both interventional and non-interventional treatment methods. You may of won on the pitch but not on the terraces or outside. Everyone was over the age of 30, had several children, a Daewoo estate and much nicer clothing than a poxy Tacchini tracksuit ever was. The information contained on this site is the opinion of G. Blair Lamb MD, FCFP and should not be used as personal medical advice. Less than a fortnight ago, Danny Scriven, a 26-year-old postman, and 21-year-old Kali Hagenstede two members of the Tottenham firm the Yid Army were jailed for 15 months and given six-year banning orders (keeping them away from football matches) for being part of a 20-strong mob that smashed up The George, a pub in Holloway used by Arsenal's firm the Herd, after Spurs lost the north London derby last October. Reformed hoolies have become business leaders as well. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. However nowadays the name is mainly used by the majority of Arsenal supporters (the non-hooligan sector) who consider themselves to be die hard Arsenal supporters. We don't want that disease returning. Arsenal Herd and Gooners then and now! If you do not agree with these terms and conditions, please disconnect immediately from this website. The Scot has become a firm favourite with Arsenal fans and team-mates alike since making the 25million move from boyhood club Celtic back in the summer of 2019. ", Wally, who has now retired from the frontline and says he prefers to watch Birmingham City from an executive box, concurs. Daintiness, Ba***ls, DM, R*s*i, Ginger etc all well respected lads. One Arsenal hooligan with a history of organising trouble is a close ally of a prominent Chelsea 'headhunter' who has a horrendous record of violence. They have been involved in several outbreaks this season, including fighting at both north London derbies against arch-rivals Tottenham Hotspur. Arsenal fans Charlie Barker, 22, of Redhill Street, King's Cross, Jack Bulley, 23 of Wanstead Park Road, Ilford, and 43-year-old Lee Bowering, of Percy Road, Romford, all pleaded guilty. Yeah sorry if it gets to you i was. GRV Media Ltd, 18 Mulberry Avenue, Widnes. The Herd. "The best way for me to curtail the activities of my risk group [in Islington, Arsenal's borough] is to cut off their supply of cocaine with good intelligence, arresting the person supplying them. 80's Arsenal had a very big hooligan following, for a time probably the top one in London and one of the few to take it to places up north. Recite the true origins of the collective noun, GOONERS? "I'd suggest that was cowardly because its easy to attack a defenceless pub. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. You think you know it all cos you used to drink with a few of our older lot. These days football violence is more likely to be meted out by successful media types, bankers and businessmen than rangy kids from council estates. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. Everything else has been co-opted. Was with docker that day man utd away when he came up with name gooners. On January 13 at Blackfriars Crown Court, they were each given football banning orders ranging from five to eight years and prison sentences totalling nine-and-a-half years. Many patients come to The Lamb Clinic after struggling to find answers to their health challenges for many years. Connell had left school at 16 to take up scaffolding and was briefly famous when he gave an interview to Janet Street-Porter claiming to be the first black skinhead on the Arsenal terraces. From 74-75 onwards they just disappeared, never worked out why as Arsenal still had a great team. He wanted goon squad but that got the big NO. I had one photo taken in 40 years at Hampden Scotland v England 1985 I think didnt know, it had been taken never got season tickets or away pass and youd to sign up who you are etc no one knocking on my door the bloody pic appeared in a book without my permission almost 20 years later and hate to say what a poor attempt having to get an author and take to meet fa s cos you werent involved really and make out top boy its a Deffo not in a million years mate wed been at it at Chelsea arsenal West Ham scum sciousers 5 years before you went to firt away game at Huddersfield 10 miles on the train.oh Ive waited so long to say that..anyway like it or not well always call you gooners see you soon. That is still the case at Shite Hart Lane to some degree, so why should West Hams notorious psychos pay Arsenal fans little heed these days?It may have something to do with how these people rate the other hooligan firms. Good to here still rocking. A Tottenham hooligan turned MMA fighter has recalled his violent life, saying he used to want his beloved team to lose so it would kick off outside the stadium. Everyone is encouraged to see their own healthcare professional to review what is best for them. Haha ok then. [1], The Pet Shop Boys also performed a benefit night for Connell's family at Heaven nightclub, called Can You Bear It?, alongside Suggs and Chas Smash of Madness, who had both been friends with Connell since he was 12. Sign up for exclusive newsletters, comment on stories, enter competitions and attend events. Gotta go with it. Theyll have contacts in the music industry, membership of private clubs and a decent pension plan. I bow to your greater knowledge. I have respect for your proper old school and used to drink with some of them in the White hart opposite the old Bassetts sweet factory on white hart lane, good banter and never any grief,we avoided each other when it kicked off at a game or station and had a giggle about it after. Each email has a link to unsubscribe. He says: "There can be inappropriate use of the powers. The 2008 Turner Prize winner Mark Leckey spent his youth on the stands at Everton and became a casual. Physically, the drive used to be alcohol that fuelled this anti-social behaviour. It is probably to do with the fact that West Ham fans hate Tottenham, Chelsea and Millwall so much that they dont have time to hate Arsenal as well. This is the profile of the 21st-century football hooligan, a breed of "fan" who, although decreasing in numbers and visibility, is recognised by the football authorities and police as never having gone away. Many chronic pain conditions are part of a larger syndrome such as fibromyalgia. And you were only team that turned up at k.Cross before or after. For anyone reading this wanting to know the real coup about the 80s Arsenal firm-the best era of fv and fashion, we called ourselves Gooners in 1981 after the yids started calling us Goons, forget what all the idiots say about it,or the EIE bit-it dont mean anything, another one Ds inventions as out firms supposed leader, fuck off, we had 30+ much tastier than him but he liked to put himself about, call it a complex thing or whatever, Binnsy and co (the proper AFC firm left over from Hoys era) thought he was a cunt, quite rightly so.Every copper in England knew D as did every mob, what fun is that ?, he liked the attention too much and took the heat with his mob as we slipped under the radar. Away from the ground it is a different story. The Herd was mainly active between the late 1970s and early 1990s, it still exists. Cocaine is the choice of a modern-day hooligan. The Herd back in the earlier days were known as a violent football hooligan firm that had the have the distinctive war-cry E-I-E. Some of you need to earn your stripes on the cobbles. But this time round the difference is that its not English fans expected to cause the trouble, its Poles and Ukranians. (Trailer) BloodlineVision Follow Who is Ian Davies, attempts to explore his rise from middle class kid from Broadstairs to Arsenal (the Herd and the Gooners) hooligan Lots of using your initiative. Summed it up precisely, Mucca! Parliament then passed the Football Disorder Act 2000, giving courts the power to issue banning orders and confiscate passports to keep troublemakers away from games. The authorities aim to keep it that way, although they remain vigilant and will be concerned by the outbreaks of violence this summer. Well, 500 specially trained police officers were unable to contain terrifying violence as Arsenal and Millwall fans clashed. Weve known you as The Goners proper from 1980. Most of the terraces would be casuals, explains Banno, a leading member of Arsenals hooligan firm The Herd. Thugs who are normally bitter rivals have joined forces to plan attacks on fans of Turkish side Galatasaray, who play Arsenal on Wednesday in Copenhagen, following the killing of Kevin Speight and Christopher Loftus in Istanbul last month. When they played Manchester United at Highbury last August, 20 Arsenal hooligans followed one United fan and beat him senseless at a Tube station. This account already exists. A Home Office spokesperson says: "The strategy works well and there has been no significant English football violence overseas since Euro 2000. Corinthians 15:57; But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus, Fantasy Premier League Champion 2013/2014. ", But Malcolm Clarke, chairman the Football Supporters' Federation, claims that banning orders are draconian. You can opt-out at any time by signing in to your account to manage your preferences. too. Arsenal had a good firm in the 80s probably the best they have ever had, you had some game fellas, I wont name them, but apart from your visit to the bull and one year in the clock end thats as good as you got, on matchdays it depends who you come across, sure you might have had it with some of ours and had a result, but I have never heard any of our main boys or my Richmond boys ever being as you put it smashed. To have been made. We go out together, drink together, go to weddings and funerals, and are in business together. [2] The Herd's two most notorious clashes were with Millwall fans at Highbury in 1988 and with Galatasaray fans in City Hall Square, Copenhagen in 2000.[3][4][5]. Dainton was one of the top boys but not the sole leader-when he was around he would lead with a few of others in these photos-Big bad Paul,SS Cookie and **** from Mile end-they were all very handy and they are all in these photos-I wont point them out but those who know,know. Enter your password to log in. Perhaps the quantity of Strongbow I imbibe before and after the game has given me a bubble and maybe I am missing the bitterness. In 1977, he gained public attention after appearing in a television documentary presented by Janet Street-Porter about skinheads. A glance on internet chat forums and social-media sites offers evidence that many clubs' gangs still exist throughout the Premier League, Football League and even in the non-League pyramid. Required fields are marked *. Robbie Williams sent flowers. Some are as old as 65. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Matt the Millers is a casual dining restaurant that specializes in unique appetizers and tavern favorites, but often with a unique twist. It's the height of disrespect in the hooligan world to turn over the opposition's pub. And we must remember that an Arsenal fan was stabbed to death near Arsenal tube after a game against West Ham at Highbury in the Eighties. Ive only read a few books but if you were there you know never saw any girl at it so its from the 80s the Attire home and away the camaraderie the scams the taking the pi*s out of the old bill. "It is coke now that's always about. Charlie wouldnt be intimidated by the hatchet men of the day The place was a Helmand Province of a football destination. In the late 70s, the not then called, The Yids were fkg giants compared to us little tadpoles. Of course there is a very small minority of individuals who will cause disorder on occasion and we have strong legislation in place to deal with these people. The arrangements are tried and tested throughout each football season, as around 100,000 English fans travel to international and European club matches overseas. On the way out of the game it was a similar situation. They hunt in packs, fuelled by cocaine, hooked on violence and occasionally wielding chains. Everythig i put in yt is truth as i saw it If you dont like it too bad. Arsenal had a huge firm in the late 60s and early 70s, i can remember a game at White Hart Lane in the early 70s when Arsenal had a mob in nearly every section of the ground. I could go on and clue you up about our adventures with West Ham , Millwall and Chelsea, but as you wasnt there you wouldnt believe it . Mid to late 70s you had some numbers up for it around Highbury but you cant say you went to the lane and won. The Zulus have been together for over 25 years now. From that moment I never trusted the attention seeking glory hunting div, we had our own mob who kept their distance from them attention seekers in fucking loud day glo tennis shirts and we travelled by mini bus and coaches rather than Ds and Millers inter city method of travel,they had it bang on top from day 1 with ob infiltrating and everyone getting nicked every other week.And they never sussed it, outsiders just turning up on there todd every week and no questions asked, bang obvious filth, try doing that over west ham or millwall and you will def get a tug and a broken jaw. In the first issue it summed up its audience: We are aiming at the boy (or girl) who one day stands on the terraces, the next stands in a sweaty club, and the day after stays in and reads Brendan Behan while listening to Run-DMC. The magazine later launched the record label Junior Boys Own which went on to introduce the Chemical Brothers, Underworld and the Black Science Orchestra to the world. As for Gooners turning up at WHL i can honestly say i never saw a firm turn up, ever, between 76 and late 80s. respect to your numbers in the late 70s though. We pay informants; there is a network of them across hooligan groups in England and if they give us good information we pay them. [1], Connell was born in 1961 in Brighton, England to Jamaican parents. Since then troublemakers from the other four British clubs, including members of the infamous 'Chelsea headhunters' gang, have agreed to join forces. Its an addiction just like alcohol, drugs and fags, he explains. Membership of a firm was open to anyone who supported the team and was prepared to fight for it, but a close-knit group of long-serving, battle-hardened and often style-conscious top boys organised away trips and meeting points, acting as generals, issuing tactical instructions and insisting wannabe recruits prove their mettle. "It would need a culture change. [5] He was employed as a bodyguard for the Pet Shop Boys' first tour in 1989. Dynamo Dresden in clashes with police 17.05.2021, Manchester United fans protest 02.05.2021. Some younger ones may think never a female hooligan those that were there at the beginning circa 1980 may remember me if you got a smack its 40 odd years now so no grudges lol Im 57 and still a casual/ dresser football hooligan will take the 5th if asked buy old bill. It was quite a pleasant meeting, a kind of impromptu outdoors social club punctuated by incessant mobile usage to track the other firm. In the end, there was a brief tussle. Personnaly I dodged em. About 20 of them went to our risk pub, which is normally frequented by our hooligans, and attacked normal Saturday night punters. You ask any ex-hooligan what the best drug theyve ever used is and I guarantee they will say football violence.. Cue a lorralorra people talking shite about something they know nothing about irl. Was invited to do Chelsea podcast. Dearden says: "We knew there would be around 20 of Blackpool's risk supporters. West Ham fans jailed after violent clash with Arsenal supporters I know what happened i was there . One Arsenal hooligan with a history of organising trouble is a close ally of a prominent Chelsea 'headhunter' who has a horrendous record of violence. ", Strict policing ensured the Leeds v Millwall match went off without major disorder but there has been plenty of football-related trouble this year, Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning, Millwall supporters are escorted by police officers before the Championship match against newly promoted Leeds United at Elland Road. Later in his life he served as a bodyguard , minder and manager to the Pet Shop Boys , appearing on Although We look out for each other.". Stephen Armstrong meets the die-hard fans who raised their game, Chelsea and Cardiff City fans clash with police on the King's Road, 2010, Running with the herd: David Walliams and Matt Lucas attend the funeral of Dainton, 'The Bear' in 2007, Cooligans United: Noel Gallagher with a Manchester City top in 2000. cos you reckon your a Yid and you got chelsea mates,you obviously aint from the manor cos no real yid would have chelsea mates and you aint ever been involved so fuck off with the bunny you soppy little cunt.Your all over youtube giving it then deleting your comments out of embarrassment not because you might incriminate yourself cos you aint ever done fuck all.Cos no cunt wanks off over your mob from the 80s cos it didnt exist must grate you which is why you spend so much time online talking bollocks.We came to yours 50 handed 4 years ago and embarrassed you,theres videos on youtube of it as proof and I know you seen it cos I see your bollocks written on the comments,Northumberland park your lot bottled.Now fuck off. What we have is a decreasing minority of quite well-organised groups seeking disorder with like-minded individuals a long time before and after the game. Read our, {{#verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}} {{^verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}}. Without realising it, it was the beginnig of an early 70s Arsenal ave it rennaisance.
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